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Vieux 25/09/2008, 17h01
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Par défaut Re: STEPHEN HAWKING AND EUROPEAN TAXPAYERS

On Sep 25, 7:00***pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...***yahoo.com> wrote:
> When European taxpayers realized that, in order for Stephen Hawking to
> get the Nobel prize, a 9 billion Large Hadron Collider should be
> built, they gave the money without fuss - European taxpayers would
> give everything for the development of the ideas of Stephen Hawking,
> Stephen King and Harry Potter.
>
> The problem is that, while developing his ideas, Stephen Hawking might
> have been misled by the ideas of Sir Arthur Eddington, and this Sir
> Arthur Eddington is by no means the most honest scientist in the
> history of science:
>
> http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/bot.html
> Stephen Hawking: "This argument about whether or not the universe had
> a beginning, persisted into the 19th and 20th centuries. It was
> conducted mainly on the basis of theology and philosophy, with little
> consideration of observational evidence. This may have been
> reasonable, given the notoriously unreliable character of cosmological
> observations, until fairly recently. The cosmologist, Sir Arthur
> Eddington, once said, 'Don't worry if your theory doesn't agree with
> the observations, because they are probably wrong.' But if your theory
> disagrees with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, it is in bad trouble.
> In fact, the theory that the universe has existed forever is in
> serious difficulty with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The Second
> Law, states that disorder always increases with time. Like the
> argument about human progress, it indicates that there must have been
> a beginning."
>
> Instead of just parroting Sir Arthur Eddington, Stephen Hawking should
> have read Jos Uffink, officially the greatest expert on the
> foundations of thermodynamics:
>
> http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00000313/
> Jos Uffink: "The historian of science and mathematician Truesdell made
> a detailed study of the historical development of thermodynamics in
> the period 1822-1854. He characterises the theory, even in its present
> state, as 'a dismal swamp of obscurity' (1980, p. 6) and 'a prime
> example to show that physicists are not exempt from the madness of
> crowds' (ibid. p. 8) ...Clausius' verbal statement of the second law
> makes no sense...All that remains is a Mosaic prohibition; a century
> of philosophers and journalists have acclaimed this commandment; a
> century of mathematicians have shuddered and averted their eyes from
> the unclean... Seven times in the past thirty years have I tried to
> follow the argument Clausius offers... and seven times has it blanked
> and gravelled me... I cannot explain what I cannot understand....This
> summary leads to the question whether it is fruitful to see
> irreversibility or time-asymmetry as the essence of the second law. Is
> it not more straightforward, in view of the unargued statements of
> Kelvin, the bold claims of Clausius and the strained attempts of
> Planck, to give up this idea? I believe that Ehrenfest-Afanassjewa was
> right in her verdict that the discussion about the arrow of time as
> expressed in the second law of the thermodynamics is actually a RED
> HERRING."
>
> So in the end Stephen Hawking may not get the Nobel prize and European
> taxpayers may stop giving so much money for the development of his
> ideas.
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...***yahoo.com

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